| re: Rose's Turn of Phrase: A Linguistic Exploration of 'Coming Up Roses,' from Gypsy, with Three Linguists |
| Posted by: BHandshy 05:40 pm EST 01/16/25 |
| In reply to: Rose's Turn of Phrase: A Linguistic Exploration of 'Coming Up Roses,' from Gypsy, with Three Linguists - MockingbirdGirl 04:43 pm EST 01/15/25 |
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I found this odd:
"Coming up roses also comes up in another musical revival this season—in Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Sunset Boulevard, when the ambitious screenwriter Joe Gillis discusses his faltering career:
If this didn’t come up roses
I’d be covering funerals
Back in Dayton, Ohio.
How to explain that Joe Gillis, in a story set in 1959/1960, employs a phrase that was coined nearly a decade later? Well, obviously, Norma Desmond and Momma Rose exist in the same theatrical universe."
Ummm, GYPSY opened in 1959, so Joe Gillis could easily have heard the song and could have latched onto the phrase. |
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Sunset Boulevard is set in 1949-1950. - Seth Christenfeld 12:03 am EST 01/17/25 |
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